What did you do to your FJR today?

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ericboutin wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:02 pm I do love the cherry always have!

Rode to work.

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The 04 color is still my favorite US color choice. That being said, if something happened to just the paint on my bike, I would have it repainted to match my old 04 or a pearl white like the EU choice or maybe it was Canada that one year. Thanks for posting that pic.
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200 miles yesterday - gorgeous day with the country roads quite desolate. Did find in the middle of no where one stupid idiot presumably on the phone or something that had wandered into my lane. To his credit, he corrected aggressively back into his lane about 200 yards before we crossed, and I was slowing way down and ON the shoulder anyway by that time. I did give him the one-finger salute as he passed.

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I road my about 250 miles yesterday. Like Pants I was in desolate places but it usually is in Eastern Washington and that is growing on me. Unlike Pants no jackasses were encountered. This is my 2001's post on this forum. Yea.
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Short ride to run a bunch of errands and test out the new to me Yamaha Touring screen I got from Bill Lumberg. I like the screen and think it will work very well for warm weather rides. Looks much less like a barn door than the VStream I use for cold weather. Thanks BL.

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I applied thread locker to my saddlebag lock screws. What I found interesting is that one screw on each saddlebag had some sort of orange colored residue on the threads. In my experience, I am only aware of an orange patch of thread locker being pre-applied to screws. I think that at least one screw on each side was secured.
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Road my FJR 267 miles today. I was in the town called Santa Idaho. It exist. At the city limits there is a 35 mph speed limit sign and just below it there is a sign with these words, "Entering Santa". JSNS.
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With the mandated rules at school being that both principals cannot be in the office at the same time, I opted for a little social distancing with Spawn. Temps were warming up nicely about 9:30 as we geared up and headed.......south sounds good. There is a nice motorcycle shop in Terra Haute. Let’s go see what’s shaking there. Plus it has a really nice FJR type road called Lower Terra Haute road. About 15 to 20 miles from Paris Illinois to West Terra Haute. Curves, elevation changes, and some banking all while being pretty rural and lowly patrolled. About the best we have around here.

I take my time getting to Paris as Spawn is listening to her music and me mine. We talk a little about her college plans and “to do” list for finishing high school. It’s really pretty lame finishing out this way. Senior-itis always hits kids this time of year, but it’s even worse due to the shituation upon us. She is fighting it, but not valiantly.

About 6 miles from the end of the road, I am leaned over at FJR nominal speed and I feel a clunk like I hit a rock mid corner. Never saw one, but oh well, it happens. Next few curves seem normal, but I dialed it back a little as we were coming into town anyway. Popo hang out there often.

We roll about 3 more miles and I start feeling a little wobble that feels like the tire is going flat. We ease over to the shoulder and hop off. Nope, seems full with a squeeze and a toe kick. We hop back on after a few inspections. Seems fine, but I still hear a few weird noises and the steering feels off. We stop again and I get down on the ground and really start looking. Nothing seems amiss. We are about 3 miles from the dealership. We head that way. On surface streets, I am really getting a crunchy sound every once in a while and a weird brake feel.

We pull up to service bay and start talking to Bill, the service guy. He doesn’t know anything and I can tell something is wrong with the axle or brakes. We look around, but he eventually says he has no OEM brake pads there or aftermarket. I just want to take the wheel off, but they say nope, I can’t do that. The service manager Lane comes out and starts helping. It’s a few min and we know it’s the wheel bearing on the right side. I don’t have to ask him if he has any bearing here. He says straight away, special order. I am 60 miles from home and no clue what to do with the bike. I need to get it home and on my lift, this board can help me fix it. I call my oldest son and we FaceTime what I need him to bring me. Canyon dancer, 4 straps, and my Ridgeline. No ramp needed, they have a dock. Lane in service is cool and says we can leave our gear on the table if we want to go look around and they will help is load it upon Connor’s arrival. 70 min later, we are loading up and after a quick carry out at Chick Fil A, we head home. Unload the bike at home. The KLX was on the lift in preparation of the shock spring coming in the mail. It did and 45 min later. I swapped it out.

Time to dig into the FJR. I called Pants and he walked me through some likely things. I pulled the wheel and the clutch side seemed just fine. Flipping the tire over made it obvious. Pants FaceTimed in and got me started on the removal. It wasn’t hard, the thing basically fell apart. Image
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Will make the order tomorrow and get the wheel up to Autozone. One of my player’s mom works there. Pants said I can borrow a bearing puller there. I prob could just push the other one out, but after cleaning up the whole wheel, I realize we were damn lucky we didn’t have a disaster.

Anyway, shoot me any advice on the fix up if you would. I appreciate all the advice from Pants and whatever you all give me. Thanks


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If you have a bearing shop near you, you can get bearings....
OEM's are 6004DK (or 60/22) KBC (Korea) or NTN (Japan). 43mm ODx22mm IDx 12mm thick
Seals go by OD (43) ID (27.5 or measure the wheel spacer) and thickness (8mm)
In a pinch you can run without a seal until you find one. Bearings are sealed.
Would bet you can get bearings for a Honda, very common bearing.
Punch the old bearing out from the opposite side (in your case, middle spacer may slide out of your way.
Best press them in, using the old outer bearing race... I try to avoid pressing on the inner race.
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I've learned well enough. My canyon dancer and about 50 bajillion tie downs and bungee cords are all stuffed into an easy to grab plastic bin at the end of my garage shelves. All my wife has to do is grab that, and my ramp and toss them in the truck. It's also easy for me when I need to tie down a couple of dirt bikes too.
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Curious? How many miles on that bearing before it failed?
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Glad the two of you are back at the house, Cav.
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Cav47 wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:28 pmTime to dig into the FJR. I called Pants and he walked me through some likely things. I pulled the wheel and the clutch side seemed just fine. Flipping the tire over made it obvious. Pants FaceTimed in and got me started on the removal. It wasn’t hard, the thing basically fell apart.
Anyway, shoot me any advice on the fix up if you would. I appreciate all the advice from Pants and whatever you all give me. Thanks
Cav47,

At the risk of being obvious, it would be wise to change out both of the wheel bearings, left and right. No telling what one bad bearing did to the other one. All with perfect new seals, also. I must have real confidence in my machine, and new bearings/seals are a cheap way to get that. HTH. 8-)
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Absolutely change both as Red says... no question about it. As for risk when a front bearing fails, unless it seizes (not likely), the axle is holding everything together, and supported by the seal and wheel spacer, the forks are squeezed rather well together by the axle and really can't go far... that said, when noises happen, investigate, ride coolly. I had just left home (approached NY/PA border), for WV when I heard noises one time, was intermittent and mild, bearings were not overheating... Billy Fitz and I went to WV and back (1000 miles), when I got home, found the bad bearing... it had not yet disintegrated.... what was the worst that could happen I kept telling myself, and it was still intermittent.... tested it in the twisties, but kept my cool too....
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^^^
Agreed, I would change both as well. While you are at it, check the rear bearings.
I noticed some "notchiness" in the front bearings on my '07 at a bit over 100,000 miles - caught before failure. (I always check them for "feel" with every tire change.)

Sold the bike @ 187,000 miles with the original rear bearings.
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Cav will certainly change both bearings. The "threaded rod" method of install (freeze the new bearing first) is a good idea in lieu of the "pounding a socket as a driver" method - Cav, I can walk you through that.

I've always been on the fence about considering this as a "maintenance item". On the one hand, its a sealed roller bearing. One would think that at long as the seal is good, and ya got grease in it, it's good forever until it fails. On the other hand, we tend to see this on 50K-100K bikes (not as much FJRs, though it would appear). I don't want to have to deal with this on the road.

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I wouldn't change it until it fails, if it ever fails... it's a ball bearing FWIW. Check at tar changin' time, yer good, but do what yer heart tells ya, the darn things are only $20 each.
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Ordered both of them today from my local dealer. He is a Kawi guy, but I always want to support local and he is a small shop that always does good on me. Ordered both sides, 2 seals, and also the "front wheel spacer". The two ends did not look the same when I pulled it out. One side had a nice tapered rounded edge to it and the other one was pretty flat looking. I will provide pics tonight when I get home to see if you all think I need that spacer needs to be replaced.
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OK but it only needs to go up against the inner bearing race, has no other function but to fill out the grease seal on the OD.
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I am in the change it camp if the bike is exposed to roads with calcium chloride and any other snow treatment chemicals.
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fontanaman wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:36 pm I am in the change it camp if the bike is exposed to roads with calcium chloride and any other snow treatment chemicals.
Hahahaha! Pants, you got any of that stuff in Louisiana? :D
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